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November 01, 2007

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question

Has Van Tran supported this Democrat? She's a doll, but she is still a Dem and Van should not be helping her.

Milk Man

Madison is a doll, especially when compared to other female Vietnamese office holders in Orange County.

HOT! HOT! HOT!

Glamor Shot

That photo of Madison must be a glamor shot. She's not that good in person.

Milk Man is also forgetting about Dina Nguyen. Side by side, without the glamor shot, Dina is better than Madison and has her beat by 10 years and three kids.

vinh nguyen

Madison is so unpopular with her own constituents that she could not deliver votes or money to her any of her political friends. Unlike Van Tran who has the clout and the pull from the community.

Madison is very isolated and she hardly show up for any Vietnamese-American functions or events.

She is supporting "New Saigon" which is against the wish of the majority of her constituents. She was so unpopular that at a community meeting that she arranged to hear, she stood in a corner all by herself and nobody came up to even say hi to her.

This is district where 35% of the voters are Vietnamese American and 45% are Hispanics. It was an off year election when she and another Vietnamese-American candidate faced each other in 2006. Only 8,500 votes were casted and she won.

In the last two years, she isolated herself from the community by breaking promises after promises and what is worse is her lack of loyalty to the people that help her elected.

Unlike Van Tran who helps raised a next generation of Vietnamese-American candidates, Madison has been doing her best to put the Vietnamese-American candidates in their place so that is the only Vietnamese-American elected officials.

It is well known that she is a very weak councilwoman for she does not have the support of her constistuents and also because of her weak ethics.

Ethics is an issue that comes up again and again when the name Madison Nguyen is mentioned in the community

truong cu

Dinah is hot, no doubt. Now that is my kind of councilwoman.

Paul Lucas

Poster 9:48PM. Why would you attack Dina in that manner? I find the comments about janets appearance in a previous post extremely distasteful as well. A legislator should be critiqued on the leadership and votes. Not in this type of childish manner.

I would like to ask Tomohawk to remmove the obscene comments.

Dina Nguyen is a good council member. I have worked with her in recent months on getting a new skatepark built in garden Grove in response to a vote by the city council to ban skateboarding in an area of garden grove along with stiff fines for those caught skatebparding there.

Note that Dina did vote in favor of the ban on the skateboarding in the hotel area along harbor blvd. But she did step up to the plate by pushing the city staff to find a new spot in the city for a new skatepark.

Additionally, Dina did not accept staff recommendations to build a skatepark on an existing park which also happens to be on land occupied by a school. The point is to build new parks and new open space. She stuck to her guns on that one.

Even further, Dina was receptive to my ideas, suggestions and input on the siteing for the new park. I am proud to say that a new skatepark is being sited at the corner opf bixby and brookhurst partially based on my recommendations.

Its a good feeling to be an active member of my community rather than a random commentor posting under dubious aliases to attack a sitting legislator for their children and for their looks whether they are not good looking or not.

I suggest you guys get a ligfe and go out on a graffitti cleanup and actually do something for your community rather than take pot shots like you just did.

Paul Lucas

Tomahawk

Tomahawk or should I say Poster 12:09 AM with IP Address:67.127.234.227

Do not pretend to be me again. Like Jubal would say, this is your first and last warning.

Tomahawk

Vinh Nguyen/truong cu:

Your personal opinion of Madison's work ethics is fine as this is a forum for ideas, however dont immediately take up a different name to trash Dina Nguyen. You dont need to attack Dina's personal life.

Been Around

The childish attacks on Janet Nguyen and others are very distasteful. The real question was the one posted above - is Van Tran helping to advance the career of a liberal Democrat?

killerjoe

I wonder if Janet haters' will treat this one the same way they treat her.

tylerh

Paul, Tomahawk, been around:

Thank you for keeping this conversation focused on what matters: Madison's politics and policies. Van Tran's political relationship with her is certainly something I wish to know more about.

As for our posters who seem to still be in junior high school:


YO, THIS IS OCBLOG.


HOTORNOT.COM is the place for such puerile comments.

Tyler,
The fact that Madison Nguyen is a Democrat is really a non-issue in the Vietnamese Community. In the short time that I have had to interact and learn about and from the Vietnamese Community here in OC, I can assure you the (D) or (R) behind a candidates name on the ballot is of no consequence to the average Vietnamese Voter.

The real meat of the matter is where they stand on the issues. Ironically, the issues that the Vietnamese Community cares about is largely based in Democratic ideology;
Healthcare, Education, Affordable Housing, Senior Issues, Human Rights etc.

This Community was the Dems to lose and they lost them. It is now ours to take back. The goal for the Dems in OC is to get the message out to that community about the issues and educate them on the difference between the two parties.

The evidence of my position is manifest in the recent opening of the Community Service Center in the Asian Garden Mall by Van Tran and the rest of OC's Vietnamese elected and Janet Nguyen’s response to this office by opening her own field office on the other end of Little Saigon.

As you can read from the article about Madison Nguyen, the ire from the Community stems from her stance on the naming of the area between Little Saigon or New Saigon. Its not about the fact that she’s a Dem. It’s an issue based electorate. Their main issue is absolute alliance and loyalty to the former South Vietnamese Government, country, and history and how it is applied here in the USA. After that, their main issues of concern are historically Democratic values.

All the best,

Paul Lucas

J. Nguyen


I live in SF and came across this interesting controversy in San Jose and am a bit puzzled. Can someone please explain to me 2 simple questions:

1)Why is Madison Nguyen so stupid to go against her constituents (the majority of the people who voted her in) and go for an unpopular name “Saigon Business District”? What’s her logic?

Clearly she does not what her role is as a public servant representing her constituents.

2)Why did these idiots on the city council think “Saigon Business District” is better than “Little Saigon”?

Saigon Business district is so dry, so industrial, so capitalistic, so beauracratic, so boring. If I was a tourist, I would not want to visit it because I think it’s a district filled w/ liquor stores, 99cent stores, auto repair shops, and that it’s “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY” there.

Do you see “Little Italy”, “Japantown”, “Chinatown”, “Koreatown”, “Little Russia” all around the U.S. be called Italy, Japan, China, or Russia Business District? NO. When I see these names on a map, I think of an interesting, rich, vibrant, diverse, colorful, wonderful, and unique cultural center where I will be have a great time exploring and enjoying the wonderful authentic food of the region where these citizens came from. I think of FUN. “Little Saigon” is this. It represents a rich and colorful Vietnamese cultural district where you’ll get a great bowl of pho or that vietnamese sandwich or that strong vietnamese ice coffee. It represents a friendly group of immigrants who are happy to make a region vibrant and posperous.

I understand that many vietnamese families have been greatly tortured by the communist regime and are terribly hurt. But ordinary Americans and especially Madison Nguyen (sadly as she is vietnamese by blood and culture) do not understand that and you cannot use it to back up the name “Little Saigon”. You have to argue that “Little Saigon” represents not only a “business district” but also a cultural heritage center. I don’t see it fractioning San Jose, but actually enriching it and making it a more unique place to visit. Given that San Jose has the largest Vietnamese population outside Vietnam, it’s sad that your Mayor and Councilmans ignore its constituents and chose a heavily rejected name. I am shaking my head right now in pity to see that you have these people representing you. Thank god I’m not a San Jose citizen as I know my voice will NOT be heard.

As for those who say that San Jose shouldn’t copy the “Little Saigon” name from Orange County (Westminster). It has nothing to do with that. Do you think other communities who got together and and named a region Little Italy, Chinatown, or Koreatown say “Hey why are we copying NYC’s name???!! Lets name it New Bejiing Business District of San Francisco of the US.” No. It’s lame. We want cohesiveness in our community not factions. That’s why Little Saigon should be the official name on the map at every Vietnamese communities. Really…I think it’s a pretty catchy name and not that bad!

J. Nguyen


I live in SF and came across this interesting controversy in San Jose and am a bit puzzled. Can someone please explain to me 2 simple questions:

1)Why is Madison Nguyen so stupid to go against her constituents (the majority of the people who voted her in) and go for an unpopular name “Saigon Business District”? What’s her logic?

Clearly she does not what her role is as a public servant representing her constituents.

2)Why did these idiots on the city council think “Saigon Business District” is better than “Little Saigon”?

Saigon Business district is so dry, so industrial, so capitalistic, so beauracratic, so boring. If I was a tourist, I would not want to visit it because I think it’s a district filled w/ liquor stores, 99cent stores, auto repair shops, and that it’s “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY” there.

Do you see “Little Italy”, “Japantown”, “Chinatown”, “Koreatown”, “Little Russia” all around the U.S. be called Italy, Japan, China, or Russia Business District? NO. When I see these names on a map, I think of an interesting, rich, vibrant, diverse, colorful, wonderful, and unique cultural center where I will be have a great time exploring and enjoying the wonderful authentic food of the region where these citizens came from. I think of FUN. “Little Saigon” is this. It represents a rich and colorful Vietnamese cultural district where you’ll get a great bowl of pho or that vietnamese sandwich or that strong vietnamese ice coffee. It represents a friendly group of immigrants who are happy to make a region vibrant and posperous.

I understand that many vietnamese families have been greatly tortured by the communist regime and are terribly hurt. But ordinary Americans and especially Madison Nguyen (sadly as she is vietnamese by blood and culture) do not understand that and you cannot use it to back up the name “Little Saigon”. You have to argue that “Little Saigon” represents not only a “business district” but also a cultural heritage center. I don’t see it fractioning San Jose, but actually enriching it and making it a more unique place to visit. Given that San Jose has the largest Vietnamese population outside Vietnam, it’s sad that your Mayor and Councilmans ignore its constituents and chose a heavily rejected name. I am shaking my head right now in pity to see that you have these people representing you. Thank god I’m not a San Jose citizen as I know my voice will NOT be heard.

As for those who say that San Jose shouldn’t copy the “Little Saigon” name from Orange County (Westminster). It has nothing to do with that. Do you think other communities who got together and and named a region Little Italy, Chinatown, or Koreatown say “Hey why are we copying NYC’s name???!! Lets name it New Bejiing Business District of San Francisco of the US.” No. It’s lame. We want cohesiveness in our community not factions. That’s why Little Saigon should be the official name on the map at every Vietnamese communities. Really…I think it’s a pretty catchy name and not that bad!

J. Nguyen


I live in SF and came across this interesting controversy in San Jose and am a bit puzzled. Can someone please explain to me 2 simple questions:

1)Why is Madison Nguyen so stupid to go against her constituents (the majority of the people who voted her in) and go for an unpopular name “Saigon Business District”? What’s her logic?

Clearly she does not what her role is as a public servant representing her constituents.

2)Why did these idiots on the city council think “Saigon Business District” is better than “Little Saigon”?

Saigon Business district is so dry, so industrial, so capitalistic, so beauracratic, so boring. If I was a tourist, I would not want to visit it because I think it’s a district filled w/ liquor stores, 99cent stores, auto repair shops, and that it’s “ALL ABOUT THE MONEY” there.

Do you see “Little Italy”, “Japantown”, “Chinatown”, “Koreatown”, “Little Russia” all around the U.S. be called Italy, Japan, China, or Russia Business District? NO. When I see these names on a map, I think of an interesting, rich, vibrant, diverse, colorful, wonderful, and unique cultural center where I will be have a great time exploring and enjoying the wonderful authentic food of the region where these citizens came from. I think of FUN. “Little Saigon” is this. It represents a rich and colorful Vietnamese cultural district where you’ll get a great bowl of pho or that vietnamese sandwich or that strong vietnamese ice coffee. It represents a friendly group of immigrants who are happy to make a region vibrant and posperous.

I understand that many vietnamese families have been greatly tortured by the communist regime and are terribly hurt. But ordinary Americans and especially Madison Nguyen (sadly as she is vietnamese by blood and culture) do not understand that and you cannot use it to back up the name “Little Saigon”. You have to argue that “Little Saigon” represents not only a “business district” but also a cultural heritage center. I don’t see it fractioning San Jose, but actually enriching it and making it a more unique place to visit. Given that San Jose has the largest Vietnamese population outside Vietnam, it’s sad that your Mayor and Councilmans ignore its constituents and chose a heavily rejected name. I am shaking my head right now in pity to see that you have these people representing you. Thank god I’m not a San Jose citizen as I know my voice will NOT be heard.

As for those who say that San Jose shouldn’t copy the “Little Saigon” name from Orange County (Westminster). It has nothing to do with that. Do you think other communities who got together and and named a region Little Italy, Chinatown, or Koreatown say “Hey why are we copying NYC’s name???!! Lets name it New Bejiing Business District of San Francisco of the US.” No. It’s lame. We want cohesiveness in our community not factions. That’s why Little Saigon should be the official name on the map at every Vietnamese communities. Really…I think it’s a pretty catchy name and not that bad!

ziptang

Perhaps that article had a LINK?

truong cu

http://www.nguoiviet4phuong.com/anhduong/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1781&Itemid=1

jake

Stupic for someone always want little saigon. We are in San Jose, not L.A or where else. San jose must have a different name and specail name than other city.
Why saigon always little?? come on guys!
We want Big Saigon, or Saigon District is fine. Silicon Valley doesn't want to follow other county or city. I, 100% support Saigon District.

john

Yes, I agreed with you.
MADISON NGUYEN, GOOD JOBS.

Van Nguyen

I am not going to vote for Madison again and I know Madison through a friend in college. Her potilical career is finished as far as I'm concerned because she went against the wishes of the Vietnamese population.

Dylan Nguyen

Are you people kidding me? Its just a name for crying out loud. Who gives a f@#! what they name it? They even accuse Madison of being a communist. That just stupid. We finally have a Vietnamese in office and now they trying to get rid of her. The extremist Vietnamese community is always tripping on the smallest thing. For example, a poster for the movie "Saigon Love Story" had a tagline that said a red carpet event, and then the whole little saigon people went crazy. These people make Vietnamese look bad.

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