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November 28, 2007

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Wali

Also congress man here is a story that will help you dispel some myths about Arabs being superior:

A man once visited the Prophet's mosque in Madinah. There he saw a group of people sitting and discussing their faith together. Among them were Salman (who came from Persia), Suhayb who grew up in the Eastern Roman empire and was regarded as a Greek, and Bilal who was an African. The man then said:

"If the (Madinan) tribes of Aws and Khazraj support Muhammad, they are his people (that is, Arabs like him). But what are these people doing here?"

The Prophet became very angry when this was reported to him. Straightaway, he went to the mosque and summoned people to a Salat. He then addressed them saying:

"O people, know that the Lord and Sustainer is One. Your ancestor is one, your faith is one. The Arabism of anyone of you is not from your mother or father. It is no more than a tongue (language). Whoever speaks Arabic is an Arab." (As quoted in Islam The Natural Way by Abdul Wahid Hamid p. 125)

Wali

Also this is a quote from the prophet Muhammed's (pbuh) last sermon which we Muslims call the seal of the prophets:

O people, Remember that your Lord is One. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a black has no superiority over white, nor a white has any superiority over black, except by piety and good action (Taqwa). Indeed the best among you is the one with the best character (Taqwa). Listen to me. Did I convey this to you properly? People responded, Yes. O messenger of God, The Prophet then said, then each one of you who is there must convey this to everyone not present. (Excerpt from the Prophet's Last Sermon as in Baihiqi)

So I believe this has clarified that issue.

Chuck DeVore

Wali, you just wrote:

“To the congressman I am not sure of what he said, I wasn't there…” And yet earlier you wrote: “(Dr. Pipes) said that we should restrict the right of muslim americans to vote.”

Clearly, you did not know what Dr. Pipes said since you left the room where he spoke, yet you called him a racist and claimed he said something that he did not. This gives you a major credibility problem.

Secondly, thank you for the invitation to an MSU meeting, but, as you may remember, I attended one of your meetings in May. At that meeting I was asked to cease recording the meeting with my video camera. I refused, properly believing that request to be a violation of my First Amendment rights to practice journalism and gather news, not to mention an infringement on my responsibilities as an elected state representative to observe what is happening on a campus that the State of California heavily subsidizes with taxpayer dollars. Before the event, I noted a MSU student leader taking pictures of me, my wife, and my underage daughters at the UCI coffee shop with a cell phone camera. Later, MSU members carefully tracked my family outside the speakers’ venue while I was inside recording. While inside the Muslim Student Union event I noticed gender apartheid, with all Muslim men seated to the left and all Muslim women to the right – and this for a secular topic on a secular campus.

As for your quotes from the Koran regarding the treatment of non-Arabs, I note that you assiduously avoided my specific mention of how non-Arabs and non-Muslims are actually treated in the birthplace of Islam, Saudi Arabia. As I wrote earlier, is it not so that in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia there are signs that say: "Muslim" and "Non-Muslim" as well as within The Ummah, signs further demarking, "Arab" (1st class) from "non-Arab" (2nd class).

Is this not a form of racism? Of apartheid of both religion and race?

I spent a semester studying Islamic political thought in Cairo, Egypt. I also took two years of Arabic in college. My knowledge of this issue is stronger than the average American’s. I may attend another MSU meeting – but it will be at a time of my own choosing. Thank you, however, for the open invitation. “Ma’a saalama.”

All the best,

Chuck DeVore
State Assemblyman, 70th District
www.ChuckDeVore.com

Lou

Whatever happened to un-biased journalism?

Ikue W.

"There was nothing he said that was extreme or at variance with what I learned while a Strategic Studies major at Claremont McKenna College with two years of Arabic and a semester overseas studying Islamic political thought in Cairo Egypt."

I hope you didn't mention this in an effort to sound knowledgable about Muslim culture/religion. It's funny when people who spend a few years in a foreign country think they are "experts." HAHAHAHA!!!!

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