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April 14, 2007

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Pat

Re the possibility of a 60-yr-old alleging age "discrimination" for a physically demanding job: see your Vonnegut Harrison Bergeron post.

Thomas Gordon

Hey Pat,

The guy passed both the written and physical test.

Pat

I know he passed the test. Dumb test! A year from now, when he blows out a knee or wrecks his back and goes out on disability let me know how you feel.

Anon Deputy

Being a cop or deputy is a younger person's job. The hours, stress and occassional physcial confrontation does take its toll. I'm 40 I've been doing this job for 18 years and my body is spent. Sure there are a handful of guys who are 40+ and in great shape. But I speak from real life experience. Most of us at 40+ get broken each time we have to fight with someone. Our job is 90% Paperwork and 10% Pysical. We don't have the luxury of warming up or stretching before a fight or a chase. It happens without warning. That's why injuries occur. I really do not think its wise to hire a 60 year old. IMHO.

"I have a dream...that someday the OC Register will have a website that doesn't stink."

Jubal, why dont you just tell the register that you want the job of running their website.

Vivian- RE OLD GUYS

Just thought I'd give you guys some hope. I didn't inherit these genes from my dad, unfortunately I got my mom's genes (short, fat, etc.)

BUT my DAD is 6'3", 175 lbs, and 75 soon to be 76 years old. Until this last September when he had an operation to remove the top third of his right lung due to cancer (which had died before they removed it, therefore they didn't give him any chemo or radiation treatments); he was out riding horses, cutting cattle, etc. (He lives in Bakersfield.) He smoked for 63 years, did 20 years in the U.S. Marine Corps; fought in the Korean War, and did two tours of Vietnam.

AFTER his first operation on 9/1 they had to do a second one because his remaining lung (the bottome 2/3's) was leaking, so they went back in on 9/12 and did another major surgery to repair that. FIVE days later he went home. When he found out he had cancer in July, (after his wife died in June from cancer); he put his cigarettes down and said, "well, that does it, I quit" and hasn't had a cigarette since.

He grew up in Bakersfield, and all the "farm kids" smoked and the adults didn't see anything wrong with it back then. Pretty amazing resolve for him to just quit like that, most people I know that smoke just keep trying to quit but never actually make it.

Three weeks ago, he was back out riding horses and cutting cattle with his buddies on a ranch in Bakersfield. He'll be 76 in June. Some of these "old guys" are tough.

However, as follow up to his cancer surgery, they did a recent bronchoscopy and one of the six biopsies they took came back positive for cancer. So Monday, he's going in for a consult on how to treat that. The Doctors, who are consistently amazed by his stamina are very positive there will be a good outcome of any treatment. But they are very curious about the "dead cancer" and just how it died. Maybe his genes are tougher than we know...

Please pray for my 75 year old tough guy dad so he can be back out there chasing those poor cattle around real soon.

killerjoe

dream on.

I agree the Register has lots of issues including reporting some facts accurately. However, Gordon Dillow did a great article today that can be viewed on their website. Dillow is sending a direct and clear message to Moorlach who is trying to make a name for himself that will end up back firing on him at some point in his political career. Here it is:


The killing of an inmate by other inmates in the Orange County jail has created a lot of controversy recently. To hear some local politicians and lawyers and news media commentators tell it, the county jail system is a modern-day Black Hole of Calcutta, a pit of depravity in which sadistic guards routinely beat, torture, abuse, degrade and even facilitate the killing of hapless, helpless citizens.

Well, I don't know all the facts surrounding the case of John Derek Chamberlain, 41, the accused misdemeanor child-porn possessor whose beating death last fall in the Theo Lacy jail in Orange sparked the controversy. I don't know if the jail staff was negligent, as some people have alleged, or if a sheriff's deputy prompted the killing by "outing" Chamberlain as a child sex offender — an accusation leveled, mind you, by a chronic criminal who is one of six inmates charged with murder in the case. The courts, both civil and criminal, will have to figure all that out.

But when it comes to the county jail system overall, maybe it's time for a reality check.

Every year about 65,000 people are booked into the Orange County jail system, the 10th largest in the nation. Although some may ordinarily be upstanding citizens, and some may actually be innocent, at the time of their arrests the vast majority are either drunk, drugged-up, violent, angry, suicidal, mentally disturbed or on the run from the law — or any combination thereof.

Most of them will be processed and quickly released after they've sobered up or calmed down – either on their own recognizance or after posting a relatively small bail; because of overcrowding, jail officials don't want to keep them. For the most part, arrestees who stay in jail for more than a day or two are repeat offenders, people charged with serious felonies, fugitives and guys like Chamberlain who lack the resources to post bail and don't have family and friends willing or able to spring them.

(That apparently included Chamberlain's father, who has filed a $20 million claim against the county for his son's death – which occurred after Chamberlain sat in jail for three weeks for want of $2,500 in up-front bail money.)

So on an average day there are about 6,500 inmates in the Orange County jail system who are either serving sentences or awaiting disposition of their cases. Watching over them at any given moment are a couple hundred sheriff's deputies or special officers – a ratio of 34 inmates for every jail officer. (That's more than twice the national average; the Orange County jail system is seriously understaffed.)

Given those conditions – a population that's demonstrably unable to follow rules and play well with others, coupled with limited adult supervision – you'd think that Orange County jail inmates would be routinely killing one another. So how many inmates have been killed in our jails?

The answer is, one. No, not one last year, or the year before that. Only one inmate – Chamberlain – has been killed in the Orange County jail system in the past 19 years. Statistically, an inmate is far, far safer from being killed while he's inside the jail than when he is walking around free outside of it.

Yes, people die in Orange County jail. Last year two inmates committed suicide (other attempted suicides were prevented by jail staff) and nine others died of medical causes — not a shockingly high number in a "community" of 6,500 mostly troubled and/or substance-abusing souls. But over the past 10 years Orange County jails have had a far lower rate of "in custody" inmate deaths per capita than the county jails in San Diego, Riverside, San Bernardino and Los Angeles counties.

And yes, people get hurt in Orange County jail. Hey, it's a jail, not a girls' finishing school, with an often brutal inmate social and racial culture. It's not like these guys spend their time holding hands in a circle and singing "Give Peace a Chance."

For example, last year there were about 350 reported "inmate-on-inmate" assaults in the jail system, with more than 300 observable inmate injuries. But there were also 41 inmate assaults on jail staff and 17 serious staff injuries, including broken hands, severe bites and a deputy who was repeatedly stabbed by a murder suspect with a homemade "shank." The fact is that, based on staff-to-inmate ratios, jail staffers were statistically slightly more likely to be seriously assaulted by inmates than other inmates were.

Of course, I'm not saying that every inmate in the jail system is a violent predator, or that every deputy who works the jail is an angel – although I'd bet the average deputy stands a lot closer to the Pearly Gates than the average inmate.

But to suggest that jail deputies and officers are the most dangerous people in the Orange County jail system, or that beaten and dead inmates are stacking up like cordwood behind the bars, is simply absurd. And if anyone tries to tell you that – whether it's a whining inmate or a news commentator or a politician or a civil rights attorney with dollar signs in his eyes – remember this:

It's not just cons who will try to con you.

Contact the writer: CONTACT THE WRITER 714-796-7953 or GLDillow@aol.com


Pat

Dillow is the only worthwhile, sane writer on staff there.

I can't tell you how deeply disgusted I am by the rest of them--and for the editors, who reprint the worst of the AP and NYT's sick, twisted anti-American stories, for our Sunday reading pleasure (e.g., the "human rights" violations of Marines in Afghanistan, the "shooting" of civilians in the Korean War). I will not hold my breath for their expose of our enemies' tactics in those wars.

May the OCR, a leftist metro rag wannabe, suffer the same fate as their fallen idol, the LAT.

Pete Fundy


Pete Fundy does not agree with the assertion that Gordon Dillow is unfit for the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

Clearly, old Gordo is unfit to have his own column in the Reg, but I do believe he'd make an outstanding cop.

Warmly yours,
Pete Fundy
Senior Editorial Writer
OCLegend.Com

Boo Hoo Buffy

Back to the lameness fact.....I find it odd in a time where the Register and other non-e-media are vying for survival BECAUSE of the internet (and the times we live in) that their website and posting would be so poor. I do like the e-version of the paper which is different than what Jubal points to in this case.

OCNative

The web site is absolutely horrible, but there is a (really crappy) way of finding every article from the print edition.

1. Go to http://epaper.ocregister.com.
2. Then click on the appropriate article.
3. Then click on the envelope icon that will allow you to email a link of the article.
4. Email yourself with that link.
5. Then you can use that link to get the story to other people (i.e. use that link in OC Blog's News Roundup).

While it is possible to get every story, it shouldn't be this ridiculous to find a specific one. It's almost like they don't want us reading their stories.

A better web site equals more visits to their web sites which equals more advertising money! $$$! Anyone from the Register reading this? $$$

Morning Coffee

It's all about revenue. They want people to subscribe to their print newspaper for $130+ per year, or at least pay them the $60.00 annual fee for getting the entire paper on line. If they give everything away for free, how are they going to pay overhead?

Evening Coffee

Morning Coffee,
Congratulations, you figured it out! Good Job.

Hanna

Ah, but you can always get pop up ads on the Register, even though my browser blocks them on other sites.

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