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April 15, 2006

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Mike Milliman

Instead of looking at programs to slice and dice. Why don't we hear a lttle conversation about the price of gasoline. Why isn't there an outcry from the public when we find out the CEO of Exxon was bringing home 140k A DAY!!! recieving a bonus of 400 million a year. And we still hear GW and Congress screaming more tax cuts for the wealthy. If you really want to cut taxes for the masses cut the gasoline taxes. And put a cap on the profits of the robber barons the run big oil. That puts money in our pockets for once. Millionaires and Billionaires are living fine. Where's the outrage!! Maybe it started here with the defeat of just another rich moneygrubbing politician called Harkey. I hope so.

Tyler Burnett

Well maybe we could do away with all those programs like other nations and then we would be just as good as them.

I agree with the above post - tax cuts for the very rich is ridiculous.

However, I do have a question for our government watchdogs. I saw a racing car on TV that had "National Guard" on the hood. I also remember that the Army has one or more racing cars and the US Postal Service use to sponsor the bicycle racer who won the big bike race in France.

Is this acceptable use of tax payer money? If indeed it is our money and not a gift from some rich guy who just got a big tax cut.

redperegrine

"I also remember that the Army has one or more racing cars and the US Postal Service use to sponsor the bicycle racer who won the big bike race in France.

Is this acceptable use of tax payer money?"

No, it is not. The government should never advertise itself.

Jeff Flint

You really think the various military branches should not be allowed to advertise as part of their recruitment programs?

Dave Swanson

I have an idea, lets stop all funding for military recruitment, in fact why don't we stop funding the military and defense all together? Let's disarm and invite terrorists in.

wrap it up

How is contraceptive funding a bad program? I'd rather pay a nickle for a condom than thousands for the welfare and education of children that are "accidents."

wrap it up

How is contraceptive funding a bad program? I'd rather pay a nickle for a condom than thousands for the welfare and education of children that are "accidents."

Capo Annie

I'm with you, Wrap! I'd prefer not to be barefoot and pregnant (a fate I have happily avoided) if I have a choice. The world could use a little more contraception!

Capo Annie

One more thing, it's easy to be against these programs until you or a relative has to take advantage of one or more of them. I've recently had to apply for Medi-cal (the state's Medicaid program) since my aged mother ran out of money!

redperegrine

"You really think the various military branches should not be allowed to advertise as part of their recruitment programs?"

I'm always uncomfortable to see any branch of the government promoting itself. The military likes to run ads during NASCAR and pro-wrestling events - seemingly they have targeted their potential enlistee market. The ads I've seen seem a little, well, over-glamorous; but maybe they don't to a 17 year old. But isn't that the nature of advertising?

There's no reason for the post office to advertise at all: the USPS has got something of a monopoly.

Dave Swanson

The USPS is in competition with UPS and FedEx...a lot of it has been privatized as well, if you noticed their website is USPS.com and not .gov

Missy

it's easy to be against these programs until you or a relative has to take advantage of one or more of them. I've recently had to apply for Medi-cal (the state's Medicaid program) since my aged mother ran out of money!

Yep! All that stuff seems like a terrible idea until you need it. Then it's suddenly brilliant!

Andy Favor

Capo Annie,

Can you expand on your mother's situation. Did she have a house that could be sold? Have you and your siblings already utilized your resources. Have you tapped out all your family and friends for assistance?

I only ask because there is is so much abuse of the system with people gifting away their assets such as beach front property so they can game the system. Granted that is probably not your situation, but I think it is far better to rely on charity in this situation than a government program that does not ask enough of an individuals family and friends.

Hear that Annie?

Andy wants you to sell yourself into pauper status to care for your mom.

Now that you've mortgaged away your kids future, who will take care of you when you are in your mother's condition.

Capo Annie

Appreciate your thoughts, Andy.

Other than SSI, Mom's flat busted, having gone through an inheritance from her mother who died 15+ years ago. My husband is an invalid and I don't feel it is up to me to support my Mother for unfortunate choices she may have made.

And yes, I do worry what will happen when I live another 25 years!

Hanna

I wonder how many who think that Social Security and Medicare are bad have parents or grandparents who benefit from these programs that allow them to continue live independently.

It was not that many years ago when our parents and grandparents lived with us. When every household included several generations, not to mentions uncles and aunts and cousins and in-law.

People who reached old age and could no longer work, most did not have much savings to support themselves and they moved with relatives.

So when anyone complain about these programs, try to think about your own relatives, if you have any.

Of course, some may just claim that the old and the sick and the poor who need the assistance of society should just disappear from the face of the earth.

And if you have no sense of caring to your fellow humans, think about your own selfish interest. Do you really want the poor who may carry infectious diseases, say, work on your garden, or serve your hamburgers, wash your car and clean your house?

Roastedredpeppers

It's because of stuff like this that you people confirm the worst fears that many folks have about conservatives and Republicans. It's talk like this that puts elected Republicans on the defensive, by being forced to disavow the extremist talk that takes place on purportedly respectable political blogs. Do any of you folks actually believe that an elected Republican officeholder would survive reelection in anything but the reddest of the congressional districts if they actually proposed the abolition of social security?

In other words, you people need to get real.

Don't you people get it? Democrats use this kind of talk to scare grannie back on to the welfare plantation.

You also could rank the programs in almost the same order in terms of their respective popularity with the American voting public. Certainly, social security and medicare are the most popular programs administered by the federal government.

There simply is no broad constituency for doing away with the top ten "worst" programs and, as long as we live in a democracy, the programs will be here to stay. Launching diatribes against popular progams only makes the electorate reluctant to trust conservatives with political power.

MacDaddy

I love the constant whining by conservatives about government programs.

Especially since those who benefit most are the so called 'self reliant' red states. As it turns out, they live off the blue states largess.

How is that for irony.

Andy Favor

I have a feeling this could turn into a good thread.

Roastedredpeppers, even Libertarians do not advocate abolishing Social Security. We, as do many Republicans, advocate strengthening it. What we have now is a pyramid scheme that the Supreme Court ruled in 1970 could be abolished at any time. There is no promise to continue paying benefits to anyone and for this reason it needs to be based on sound ecconomic principles in which people own real assets.
I am trying to get Jose Pinera to come out to Orange County to speak on privatizing Social Security. Mr. Pinera got the mandate to privatize Chile's SS system the day Ronald Reagan was elected and less than six months later it was operational. It now offers an incredible model for the world. If anyone gets a chance to hear him speak, drive whatever distance you need to drive to hear him because he is fantastic.

Annie,

You brought up a good point in that you have lived a responsible lifestyle and now must pay the price for your mother's irresponsible lifestyle. There are things that can be done to avoid situations like this and I must admit I personally have been negligent. I have not set up a family trust which would mandate a dynasty type trust for my children that would provide income for their maintenance. If your grandmother had done that you could have assumed control of the trust to keep your mother from depleting her inheritance.

Another thing that I support is making it tax deductible if you had been paying your mother's long term care premiums. It is unlikely that you would have received a tax deduction if you paid for your mother's medical costs. This is why I support greatly expanded Health Savings Accounts so that you get a page one tax deduction for putting money into an HSA that will be spent on your mother's LT Care insurance or even a housekeeper's medical insurance or bills. If you give money to that sea lion rescue center in Laguna Beach to take care of sick sea lions you get a tax deduction. Pay your mother's long term care premiums and you get nothing. That is wrong.

In my opinion the womb to tomb nanny state mentality will lead to a greater and greater loss of the concept of personal responsibilty. I think the long term goal of enacting institutions that fosters a sound ecconomic foundation for those generations yet unborn, and preserving our nation as a nation of self reliant individuals, must be the basis on which we make policy decisions rather than short term expediency.

Andy Favor, CPA
Libertarian Candidate for 73rd State Assembly
www.ElectAndy.com


Missy

A conservative's definition of a bad government program: anything s/he doesn't personally benefit from.

A liberal's definition of a good government program is anything that will create dependency in his or her constituency forcing them to become completely reliant on that government program... and the political party that put it in place.

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